Curse

gameshoes3003 · May 13, 2006, 07:50 PM // 19:50

bump....

Roupe · May 14, 2006, 02:06 PM // 14:06

New name for Spearman :Tribal

Primary attribute :Impale

good vs 4 legged opponents, chance of causing deepwound & cripple is increased,as well as duration of deep wound & Cripple

other attributes

Spear throwing

Spear mastery

Tactics (but with diffrent skills than warrior)

Wilderness lore (but with diffrent skills than ranger)

Smiting (but with diffrent skills than monk)

(after all why not reuse some of the current attributes)

uses, javalins (thrown spears), twohanded spears (and shield) fallanx style

Gmr Leon · May 14, 2006, 03:40 PM // 15:40

About the fact that spears were used to break cavalry you must remember they could be used in other ways. They could be twirled to act as a sort of shield and to make the enemy weapon bounce off the spear being twirled. Also,it could be used for just a normal blocking maneuver not to mention the spear could be used as sort of a blunt object when not thrusting forward with spear's metal point.

Spears are quite similar to pikes when you think about it.

Verlas Ho'Esta · May 14, 2006, 04:11 PM // 16:11

No, I think I liked the "Raider" concept class better for spear/polearm weapons. And Anet has already said that they don't want to reuse existing attributes for new classes, so Critical Strikes is completely out of the question. Look up the "raider" concept further down the page (I want to say page 3, as of this posting).

Angel Netherborn · Jun 02, 2006, 02:37 AM // 02:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by GmrLeon

About the fact that spears were used to break cavalry you must remember they could be used in other ways. They could be twirled to act as a sort of shield and to make the enemy weapon bounce off the spear being twirled. Also,it could be used for just a normal blocking maneuver not to mention the spear could be used as sort of a blunt object when not thrusting forward with spear's metal point.

Spears are quite similar to pikes when you think about it.

Exactly. Pikes are an evolution from spears in that they have an additional spike for hooking and slashing. And no, spears in the western sense are only mostly used for breaking cavalry charges. Sort of like an anti-cavalry unit. Your other suggestions on how a spear could be used are probably a result of watching eastern movies. Those flexible spears are not used as anti-cavalry. Besides, in a military unit, you won't have the space to twirl your spear around.

Also, rather than calling it a "Spearman", which sounds really rookie and low class, why not name it "Lancer". It just sounds better.

Xiaxhou of Trinity · Jun 13, 2006, 09:32 AM // 09:32

I like the Tribal or Lancer name better =] But I don't like the attributes Roupe posted, looks like he's trying to fit too many things in a too small space. I'll probably have to research Ch3 to see what might fit in, but unless I find something pertaining to a very religious and or cultural civilization, I wouldn't try putting in Wilderness Lore or your subform of smiting. Also tactics but with different skills than a war? Might as well just give the att a different name. Well I would have at least 4 attributes as the others have 4-5. Again I have to research Ch3 but maybe Leadership could work as "the men were trained to be secular as well as military leaders" but I'll have to see if that fits in =].
So Leadership, Spear Mastery, Impale-primary attribute-increases deep wound and cripple duration as well as increases deep wound from 20% to 30%,and one other attribute.
(If you liked my concept of Breeding, though it seems like a very far off attribute, I just always visualized a spearman to be mounted on some sort of steed)
I would really like to work on this class, it makes me glassy-eyed and dreamy. Adding you to BL gameshoe both in GWG and GW

Shikaoru · Jun 23, 2006, 02:23 PM // 14:23

lancer=nope spearman=to plain pikeman=ok amazon=diablo? lol
What boout amazon i wuz thinking of making an amazon but they would pretty much destroy the ranger class cept maybe no pet or traps

Gorram Browncoat · Jul 06, 2006, 02:26 PM // 14:26

honestly didnt read most of this. BUT about the pole-arm thing. i think that it should be a melee class. Pole-Arms are different completely as they fight in close range with their weapon where as spearmean throw their weapon

Nevin · Jul 06, 2006, 03:44 PM // 15:44

I didn't read much of it... I've seen better "Spearsman" concepts that offer something fresh, this one doesn't really have any complexity. Critical Strikes = Assassins

Carth` · Jul 06, 2006, 06:48 PM // 18:48

The power of a spearman is really in the formation. A wall of men with shields up and long spears pointing forwards, in which the first 3 ranks can fight. And of course, they stop cavalry dead in their tracks.

A lone spearman isn't so good, the spear is a harder weapon to attack with than a sword or axe, since it can only be thrust into someone, and not as good for blocking.

As for throwing them, I don't like the idea of infinite spears. With arrows it's not so bad, but with spears, you would probably only carry 5 lightweight ones at the most, probably less. Once they are thrown you would close to melee range.

It's a nice idea, but I don't think it would work in Guild Wars. Unless they implement that terrible mounts idea.

gameshoes3003 · Jul 06, 2006, 07:05 PM // 19:05

how the hell did this one come back up?

gameshoes3003 · Jul 21, 2006, 05:35 AM // 05:35

hey, did you check out the new class?
One of them is a dude that throws spears and shouts crap.
OMG... My guy is closely related except for the throw spear part.... just a little...
WOW! I CAN TELL THE FUTURE!! (not)